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« on: March 25, 2015, 06:40:42 pm »
Few questions about down rigging
1: do I really need one to get down 60 ft?
2:how much weight do I need to use to get down 60ft

Where I go camping the lake get 80ft deep and last year (first time with a fish finder) I noticed that the fish seem to be sitting around 60ft. I had some 1/2 jig heads but don't think I was getting down to them as no bites to be found.
I have a old school collapsible fishing rod I was thinking of turning into a down rigger .
Think this will work?


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Re: downriger
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2015, 07:05:40 pm »
I think that may be a bit light to get down to that depth..and if you want to fish 60 ft without a down rigger, you'd need a whole lot of line to troll behind you..downriggers are easy, relatively cheap for kayaks if you go manual and get the job done..
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Re: downriger
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2015, 07:48:00 pm »
What I figured that is y I think I'll try my diy riger just wondering how much weight to use to get down that deep with out having 200ft of line out
Would 1lb weight on the rigger work?

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Re: downriger
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2015, 07:48:27 pm »
I would go with a real rigger. A 5 lb ball will get you down there but you'll need to let out more than 70ft on the rigger to get there.  Are you jigging or trolling? A 1 lb ball will be plenty for jigging.
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Re: downriger
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2015, 01:26:49 am »
3-5lb ball.

or use a jet diver or pink lady. these last 2 do take more line than a down rigger. the jet divers have the advantage of both floating up when you stop but also rise up on the turns too, often triggering the bite. these are no good at all for jigging. you can add a diving lure to get more depth too. this would be about max depth for jet divers, the pink lady can get way, way, way down.
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Re: downriger
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2015, 05:01:54 am »
Few questions about down rigging
1: do I really need one to get down 60 ft?
2:how much weight do I need to use to get down 60ft


Where I go camping the lake get 80ft deep and last year (first time with a fish finder) I noticed that the fish seem to be sitting around 60ft. I had some 1/2 jig heads but don't think I was getting down to them as no bites to be found.
I have a old school collapsible fishing rod I was thinking of turning into a down rigger .
Think this will work?

IMO, to consistently get to a certain depth, and stay there, you will need a downrigger. Cannon makes a great small unit (mini troll) that would be good for a yak. And the size of the weight is directly related to the speed you will be trolling at, the size of any lure, and/or bait you will be trolling, and the size of the line you will be using because of the drag.

Downriggers can be VERY productive for controlled depth fishing, but just like everything else, there is a learning curve associated with it! Don't be afraid to experiment..........!




« Last Edit: March 26, 2015, 09:12:02 am by Xlobsterman »

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Re: downriger
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2015, 08:13:23 am »
you can also use a lb ball or torpedo with a 20lb braid rod to get down but you will need a heavy rod to take the load. this kills the fight if the fish are below 10lbs

this is the rig i use on lake o  and i am fishing down to 100ft. i know i am down there because i am bouncing bottom fishing lakers sometimes



my rig is much more expensive then buying a mini rigger like a lake troller but i made it because it better suits how i fish.

first thing to do if you but a mini rigger is toss the stock rigger cable. it will come with 150lb cable that works great with 15lb balls but the blow back with a yak sized ball is bad and stops you from running deep.

i use 7strand uncoated 30lb mason wire line. with my 4 lb weight i can get deep no problem

the next thing you want is a low drag heavy ball. sail sells 4lb jigajoe weights but you have to add an eye like i did because stock, the balance is wrong. i think the stock eye is placed like that so it balances when the release loaded

i run a rubber dipsy shock snubber between the weight and cable. this keeps my ball in the water so im not  fighting it setting the release and takes the stress off my yak

my release is attached to the snap on the rigger line

when i am fishing above 40 ft i am using 14lb mono rigger rod and below 40ft i am using 20lb braid or 30lb wire with a 20ft mono leader to attach the release to. when i am fishing 80 or more down i use wire line


i have to use wire rigger cable on lake o because of sea fleas but if you are going to fish inland lakes 20lb braid would be perfect. i would find an old short heavy action baitcasting ice rod pair it with a old penn 209 or round abu with 20lb tuff line indicator for rigger cable so you know your depth.


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Re: downriger
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2015, 05:32:01 pm »
Thanks dwc
Awesome info your rig is almost exactly what I was thinking
I could buy a DR but being a custom fabricator I prefer the diy method

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Re: downriger
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2015, 06:41:21 pm »
What are you targeting at more than 30 ft???(walleye)is this for dinner purposes or C&R. Do some reaserch and you will find bringing most species up that far is most likely a death sentence. Fine for some species(Lakers) if played properly. Not cool for C&R.
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Re: downriger
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2015, 06:47:55 pm »
I'm told that the lake is stocked with trout assume that is what is down there.
I'm not a huge fan of fish but I do have a rule to eat what I kill don't worry about that.
Hooked a pike last year in the gills so I took him in and fried it up surprisingly good!

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Re: downriger
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2015, 06:53:26 pm »
I'm more worried that you'll be taking home a ton of fish that you had not planned to kill or let go to waste due to poor angling practices. With limits like you have out there, probably wouldn't do much harm, until your in a province where keeping fish is a rarity.
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Re: downriger
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2015, 07:33:47 pm »
I abide by proper angling procedures tyvm.
Just because i have only been kayaking for 3 years dose not mean I'm new to fishing. I spent 20+ years in my family's boat
But thanks for your concerns.

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Re: downriger
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2015, 09:25:09 pm »
Scotty Lake Troller for me with the factory cable - driving a Hobie Outback so the heavy cable really isn't a problem. 4 lb torpedo shaped weight. I've used this rig for several years and it works great. 1 turn + 1 ft down almost exactly.
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Re: downriger
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2015, 09:52:44 pm »
Here is mine.


It's the original Scotty model, "Saltaire" circa the '70's. It feels good to be using my dad's old rigger.
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