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Hobie Mirage Drive vs. Paddle Yaks
« on: January 31, 2011, 10:40:37 am »
Hello Everyone, I am just getting into kayak fishing. Thinking about getting my first yak this spring. I was hoping to get people thoughts and experiences on the benefits of both types of kayaks. I don't seem to notice many people using the Hobie's - why is that? Is mirage not all its cracked up to be? Cost? Or a purist thing and pedal drive is not really kayaking?


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Re: Hobie Mirage Drive vs. Paddle Yaks
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2011, 01:43:17 pm »
Since noone piped up yet. I will throw my 2cents in. lol. I have had a bunch of yaks so far. Tested a few in rough conditions and flipped in all of them once anyways.
Paddling-You get a workout. Good for the heart. builds your shoulders. My fave fast SOT is the Tarpon 160. Fave for both stable and speed is the Trident 15. Fave to use for all round fishing is the Trident 13.
Peddling-The juice is worth the squeeze. Doesnt take a lot of looking around on the web to see converted anglers. I personally dont think I will ever buy a paddle yak again for fishing. I think I may have sold my hobie revo today. I will get an adventure Island I think because I want to get into the sailing thing a bit.
The fins are awesome. You have way less resistance in a sit back stance while peddling in the wind. Its not awkward. Your fast. I keep up to the boys here in their touring 16 footers while in my Revo. You can troll with your rod ready for strikes. You can run your downrigger with way less complications. They are slick all round fishing machines. You can get some bigger fins to speed your peddle up. I think Pikecreek has the turbos. I have no experience with them yet.
Thats my take. Plus it seems that I am way less worked out when I get back from a 20 km peddle than if I paddled that. But I lost about 25 lbs since I paddled all the time. Bit better shape. If you are considering it then spend the extra dough. Take into consideration the amount you are going to do this sport as well. For a weekend or monthly trip I dont see spending that kinda dough.

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Re: Hobie Mirage Drive vs. Paddle Yaks
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2011, 04:34:38 pm »
Hello Everyone, I am just getting into kayak fishing. Thinking about getting my first yak this spring. I was hoping to get people thoughts and experiences on the benefits of both types of kayaks. I don't seem to notice many people using the Hobie's - why is that? Is mirage not all its cracked up to be? Cost? Or a purist thing and pedal drive is not really kayaking?
I have a Hobie Mirage Sport and I love it. Jeff has hit on most of the advantages, but I'd add that you can also pedal slowly to hold yourself against the wind or in a current. The bottom line for me is that you can't catch a fish without the hook being in the water and pedalling beats paddling hands down (pun fully intended) when it comes to keeping your hand on the rod rather than on a paddle.

To your question about why Hobies aren't more popular, I'd say:
1. Incremental cost - the mirage drive adds approximately $300 - $400 to the price;
2. Availability - there aren't may Hobie dealers around; and
3. Many people prefer SIKs to SOTs, especially if they also use their yaks for non-angling purposes

The mirage drive is a pretty incredible piece of technology. It's extremely efficient and amazingly fast. I have no doubt that Jeff could keep up with 16-footers with his much shorter Revo. My 9'5" Sport can't keep up, but it isn't far behind. With his Adventure and some turbo fins, Jeff should be able to go fast enough to tow a water-skier. :)

I suggest that you take a test drive before you decide.

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Re: Hobie Mirage Drive vs. Paddle Yaks
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2011, 05:38:39 pm »
Oh yah. and jigging in current is way more tough to stay vertical one hand paddle and one hand jigging against current is real tough. though I see people do it with style after you get used to it. GLYak is a pro. slammin big walleyes with his paddle style jigging.

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Re: Hobie Mirage Drive vs. Paddle Yaks
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2011, 05:51:09 pm »
-another Hobie convert here.... I have a Hobie Outback, by wife has a Sport. I run turbo-fins, she's upgrading to a set of turbos this summer. We are both 50+

Other advantages of being hands-free is being able to rig your rods, eat lunch, play with your electronics, whatever - all while covering water - quickly. There's no 'down time' while on the water.
In shallow streams and rivers in slow water or back eddies, the fins can also be used to 'grip' the bottom - to hold your position while you fish a pool or wait for your buddies to catch up.
We play around with the sail kit on both the Outback and the Sport - great fun!.
I use mine for photography expeditions and duck hunting as well. By using a small cuddy to cover your legs, you can approach wildlife with hardly any movement - rather than working a paddle.
More comfortable to use in inclement weather and during shoulder seasons - without cold water dribbling down the paddle and getting you wet!
I find my head is 'up' more and I'm enjoying my surroundings more while pedaling my Hobie, than when I'm industriously paddling in my SIK. I'm more aware of what's going on around me.

Downsides? - expensive, added weight, some problems with mirage drive in thick weedbeds (although not as much as I anticipated), and lack of dealerships for drooling over new models or accessories.
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Re: Hobie Mirage Drive vs. Paddle Yaks
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2011, 08:40:55 pm »
id never bash the Hobie fans, I personally prefer to paddle
(i have bad knees too)


but they look kickass


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Re: Hobie Mirage Drive vs. Paddle Yaks
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2011, 09:36:55 pm »
Bought both my  Hobies in 2007, one in June and the other in October (end of season sale).

I have an Adventure Island and a Revolution.  Only started fishing in the fall of 2008.

Now Jeff, pmorris, and Thumper covered most of it but, picture trolling with two rods, nice fat cuban and a mickey of Jack in hand while going by a beach full of.... ;)

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Re: Hobie Mirage Drive vs. Paddle Yaks
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2011, 09:52:02 pm »
you gotta post a picture of that. that would be great to see lol.


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Re: Hobie Mirage Drive vs. Paddle Yaks
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2011, 12:38:29 pm »
Im officially Yakless again :( Gotta figure what my new chariot will be.

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Re: Hobie Mirage Drive vs. Paddle Yaks
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2011, 12:54:08 pm »
you got it sold?
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Re: Hobie Mirage Drive vs. Paddle Yaks
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2011, 01:43:03 pm »
Here's my Hobie rigged for photography - or in this case, duck hunting:
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Re: Hobie Mirage Drive vs. Paddle Yaks
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2011, 02:48:27 pm »
Question for you Hobie cats. If I'm going down the river and hit a shallow spot, or a submerged rock will the fins bend, fold or just snap off. can I raise them when I'm on the water to avoid obstacles or what? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Re: Hobie Mirage Drive vs. Paddle Yaks
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2011, 04:50:49 pm »
You can remove the drive and use a paddle if you're in an extensive shallow area or push one pedal forward to hold the fins against the hull. If you whack a rock, the stainless steel mast will bend but I've never had it make the drive non-operational. The mast can be straightened on shore.

I did have one instance where I failed to tighten a mast properly after some maintenance and it popped out while pedalling. I simply pulled the drive out of the water and paddled.

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Re: Hobie Mirage Drive vs. Paddle Yaks
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2011, 05:47:43 pm »
all great stuff fellas!

Jeff, seems like you go through lots of boats. How do you find the resale - do they hold their value?

pmorris and others - how do the hobies paddle vs. OC, malibu etc?

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Re: Hobie Mirage Drive vs. Paddle Yaks
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2011, 05:55:21 pm »
They hold their value pretty good dude. I sold some during the first part of the recession and that blew goats. but normally if you are smart and buy your yaks at season end sales or at boat shows and then re sell them after your local dealer is out of the last years stock and yours are all thats left you can get maximum resale.
Sometimes you have to hold out for awhile till you get what you want but usually if your anywhere near population you can get good value.
Just sold an 09 hobie I got on sale for 1600$ a couple seasons ago for 1400$. And I used it a bunch. I had like 5 offers and said I would wait till I got my asking price of 1400. You are best to do your homework on the models and then when you notice a dealer that's selling last years models for this years prices try and swindle a deal. Cause they want to push them out usually to get newer models in. Hobie usually changes small things each year so you can notice this if you research it. 


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