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Title: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: EagleEyesFlash on December 28, 2015, 03:15:35 pm
Looks like some hope for KW 2016.

http://www.kayakwars.com/ (http://www.kayakwars.com/)

May the force be with you in 2016.  :)
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: Kayak Curtis on December 28, 2015, 05:09:23 pm
sure, sure...
and prizes have been in the mail since OZs last post in October...

Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: otownyaker on December 29, 2015, 10:17:10 am
The way it reads makes me believe he still has not found a buyer.
Oz is asking in the area of 20k for the site. Imo it is not worth it.
From what i understand he has a few offers for much less also a few ppl willing to run the site for him with him keeping ownership, and receiving a royalty off the entry fees.
No matter what direction the site take i believe it will only be pay to enter next year. I personally am fine with that i just hope that there will still be a large number of entries.
Hopefully oz has not tarnished the kayak wars name to bad and ppl will still enter after new management.
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: shooter on December 29, 2015, 04:42:48 pm
I think the great and powerful Oz has bit off more than he can chew the last 2 years. You cant continually out right lie to people and expect them to respect you.Daily posts on his personal pages gave him away months ago. Plenty of guys on this forum came out to support the site and many with words of encouragement to get a big song and dance at end of year. And look we are in the same position of where we left off at again. Promises and lies. Where does this leave the site who knows?
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: PikeCreek on December 29, 2015, 06:19:56 pm
Maybe a look at the glass half full instead of half empty. I think that EEF's post is looking at the positive side of things.  We already know how some of you feel towards OZ. 

He has acknowledged that he is over his head, and looking for someone to take it over and run it the way it should be run 

Time to stop beating a dead horse!
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: Dave on December 30, 2015, 05:01:13 pm
Hope it is a go again for next year!  Don't care too much about the prizes...  Love competing against myself to go out and catch fish big enough to count and improve on the previous season in one way or another.
Dave
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: John Gibson on December 31, 2015, 10:26:39 am
Maybe a look at the glass half full instead of half empty. I think that EEF's post is looking at the positive side of things.  We already know how some of you feel towards OZ. 

He has acknowledged that he is over his head, and looking for someone to take it over and run it the way it should be run 

Time to stop beating a dead horse!

YES, for the love of Pete, stop.
Hope it is a go again for next year!  Don't care too much about the prizes...  Love competing against myself to go out and catch fish big enough to count and improve on the previous season in one way or another.
Dave

I think people miss the point of this whole thing and get hung up on what someone can give them instead of what they can do to contribute to the greater good.
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: Homebrew76 on December 31, 2015, 01:15:12 pm
If I could do it I would quit my job as a software engineer, attempt to take over KW and turn it into something I could make a portion of a reasonable salary from.  Then seek out other ways to earn money promoting this industry (including a lot of travel and fishing), and then at the end of the day have a full workload, but an income comparable to my current income, and a life of working in and promoting the sport.

I have no idea if such a life would even be possible, or if my wife would divorce me after the first month... but it would be awesome!

That said, I am way too much of a wimp when it comes to financial insecurities so there is no way I'd be quitting my job for essentially a dream.. not today!
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: Boknows on December 31, 2015, 04:02:42 pm
I really wanted to stay out of this post but I've read through the comments several times and thought i'd chime in with this thought...This forum is made up of individuals, not clones...we all have our own thoughts, or our beliefs, tolerances, bitches, gripes, complaints, loves, desires, you get the point.  If Curtis, Joe or whoever believe they got beat and screwed by KW, then my opinion is I respect that thought that they have those feelings and issues....in the same breath, I say...If Rich, John or whoever says they are happy with KW for different reasons whatever they are, I respect that as their thoughts and feelings....I look at this forum as a place to hear different thoughts, different perspectives etc so I can make my decisions with some input, good or bad.  I approach fishing for different reasons than anyone else, because I'm an individual.  Nobody on this forum or any forum for that point is the end all, be all etc....There is merit to everyone's opinion...that after all is all it is...an opinion.  Play nice friends, respect each others opinions...because when you post your's, it may not be the one everyone agree's with...we are all subject to that!  Happy New Year, may 2016 be a year of friendship, fishing and most of all safe kayaking!!!
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: otownyaker on January 02, 2016, 03:02:21 pm
Msg from kw on the facebook page incase any one missed it

Thanks to everyone that has and had participated the KW over the years. It is has been an adventure and are excited toward breathing new life back into the event as Kayak Wars looks to continue on (responsibly) with new owners/management. Kayak Wars will be completely fresh and newly operated, with no involvement from previous organizers. We are still concluding the 2015 year and analyzing stats. In addition, we are still in the process of sending out previously pending packages which shipping-wise has been costly on our end. Nonetheless, all pending packages will be sent. While we have not completely narrowed down a specific individual/entity to take over KW, expect the transition to happen very soon. Kayak Wars 2016 will not happen unless it goes to a good responsible home. If you are interested in taking over the event, you may contact us while we are still considering all other offers/options. Thanks to everyone for their patience, understanding, and commitment in the kayak fishing world!
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: rocketball on January 05, 2016, 06:43:33 am
Hope it is a go again for next year!  Don't care too much about the prizes...  Love competing against myself to go out and catch fish big enough to count and improve on the previous season in one way or another.
Dave

I am with Dave on this one....I don't do KW for a prize! My prize is each and every fish I catch. KW is a cool way to track what I catch and have fun seeing what others catch from far away!

Hopefully KW is still around next year!
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: Flyfisher on January 08, 2016, 06:45:46 am
Yup, not about prizes for me either :P just like kicking some of your butts that's all ::)

No joking! Would be nice just to have the software so we could just track everything we catch and be able to share with everyone else what and were and how! Its just about having fun to me. had a bad season this past, surgery this winter :P then back in my kayak to kick some butt this year! Kick my butt that is, lets all get out there this year and take our kids and introduce a new friend to kayak fishing in the 2016 season. I have 6 trips already set with new anglers!

So whatever your 2016 season holds good for you and paddle On!
Play safe Brothers and sisters!
Blessings,
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: EagleEyesFlash on January 27, 2016, 08:41:55 am
The hope seems to be diminishing, been no updates for a while.
Would be a pity to see KW disappear.

Figure enough anglers would be willing to pay $10-20 annually to record
and log their catches, and this would be enough revenue to run the site.
There's value there and is why I still believe KW will survive.

Guess a new owner may be tempted to revamp the kayakman gold points format,
and perhaps refresh career stats too ? That was a fairly big thing for me and  others
to finally get on the top 40 career points and total inches list last year. A review of records would
be nice too, with obvious flawed entries removed.

Here's to hoping and watching what happens in the next while.
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: shooter on January 27, 2016, 09:33:18 am
Update. Oz sent me an email to confirm my mailing address. I believe prizes are on there way from 2014. Last years totals and and final stats im sure will be after that. As for new owner no clues. Facebook is only way to get updates on site
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: PikeCreek on January 27, 2016, 09:36:51 am
The hope seems to be diminishing, been no updates for a while.
Would be a pity to see KW disappear.

Figure enough anglers would be willing to pay $10-20 annually to record
and log their catches, and this would be enough revenue to run the site.
There's value there and is why I still believe KW will survive.

Guess a new owner may be tempted to revamp the kayakman gold points format,
and perhaps refresh career stats too ? That was a fairly big thing for me and  others
to finally get on the top 40 career points and total inches list last year. A review of records would
be nice too, with obvious flawed entries removed.

Here's to hoping and watching what happens in the next while.

Forget the prizes, I would pay $10/$15 to have my yearly catch recorded.  Forget the Goldman Points, too complicated and would simplify the program.  Clean up the records, not allowing exaggerations and inaccurate pictures.
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: Red Rocket on January 27, 2016, 02:30:08 pm
Just out of curiosity, why would anyone fork out their hard-earned cash and buy the site? Is it possible to make any money from it or is it just a way to spend a bit more money they can afford on their hobby? Not to mention the time involved in running it.
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: otownyaker on January 27, 2016, 04:57:41 pm
I think easy enough to make a grand or 2 for the first year or 2 till the name gets restored, then maybe 5-10k fallowing years. But to put up 20k an a chance that you can restore the name is to risky to me.
But I hope someone is willing to take the risk I had a ton of fun with the tournament.
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: Kayak Curtis on January 27, 2016, 05:01:48 pm
According to FB he will announce new owners tonight. Put up a pick of some shipping receipts from today, so apparently he has been lying for months about having sent things. Could see Tsquareds in top corner.
I might play again in a year or 2 once KW shows that they might be worth my time again.
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: shooter on January 27, 2016, 05:03:37 pm
Yep . Just read it. Due diligience achieved  for 2014.
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: Ravyak on January 27, 2016, 05:22:02 pm
It will be interesting to see what the new management does if they get things up and going right away for 2016. Still need results etc from 2015 too.

Will have to see what happens with the new ownership if I will take part again or not. This summer will be more about trying to break some records and personal bests, less about numbers.
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: Boknows on January 27, 2016, 05:44:28 pm
Curtis, I don't agree with you often but I have to this time...lol....it's been nothing but lies....compare this to any other product you may want to purchase and nobody would put up with it...why is it sorta ok here?  I am truly hopeful that it can be saved as I too enjoyed the game...but most of all...I really really hope that Shooter gets the recognition that is deserved for 2015.  He fished his ass off....was out there almost everyday to put those numbers up...that is fishing dedication...it's way more than I could have done and many others too.  Shooter deserves the 2015 Outback hands down.  It was a competition...that means the one who competes the best, wins.  If it was a site to keep stats it would have been called Kayak Stats...I don't want to take away from that aspect of it either, but in my opinion...you call something a competition, that is what it is...a family event is a family event...a fun day is a fun day..etc....anyway...congrats to all the top finishers..I hope you get what you earned...and I really hope KW has a future.  I would do it again.
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: Flyfisher on January 27, 2016, 05:57:22 pm
Yipee Kayak Wars is still going to exist! Looking forward to the announcement of the new management! With all the whining from Canadians don't know if they will let us play :-\ Here's hoping!
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: Kayak Curtis on January 27, 2016, 06:29:53 pm
looks like BoKnows gets it, it was a competition that a couple of us have committed a huge amount of time, energy, and money to compete in and stay at or near the top. & yes SHOOTER is the MAN

Huge difference between whining and being fed up with the lies and saying something about it.
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: otownyaker on January 27, 2016, 07:34:14 pm
Says he will announce the new owner tonight so I guess we will find out in a month or so hahaha
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: Ravyak on January 27, 2016, 11:25:04 pm
Curtis, I don't agree with you often but I have to this time...lol....it's been nothing but lies....compare this to any other product you may want to purchase and nobody would put up with it...why is it sorta ok here? 

How much did you pay for this "product"?

looks like BoKnows gets it, it was a competition that a couple of us have committed a huge amount of time, energy, and money to compete in and stay at or near the top. & yes SHOOTER is the MAN

Huge difference between whining and being fed up with the lies and saying something about it.

Not that big of a difference since you should have expected it to be run the same as last year...

Having run a free tournament its a thankless job and kayakwars would have been a lot more work then my stupid little tournament... It probably cost him money to keep things going and send out prizes and all he got in return is headaches and people attacking him on facebook etc...

He is getting things done by the looks of it. New owners were announced, 2014 prizes have been shipped out and 2015 prizes are to be announced early Feb and shipped out. 2016 kayakwars is supposedly a go and being planned as we speak by the new owners.

Now you guys have 2 choices. Sit, whine and choose not to take part in 2016 or show the new owners some gratitude and support and hope they run things better. I hope at least some members on here will choose the latter, it would suck to win the Canadian division by default lol.
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: Boknows on January 27, 2016, 11:53:29 pm
Just calling it the way I see it...Pretty sure I mentioned I hope it works out in the future as I'd be participating again in all likelihood. If you don't agree...well I respect that..you have your opinion too. 
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: shooter on January 28, 2016, 06:18:20 am
Thanks Rick /Curtis for the comments. I signed up for a year long event not partial and have for last 3 years. And this is a far harder event then any tournament out there to rise to the top.  Everybody's goals are different and don't fit into one category. I gave it my all for my team as well as myself for the goldman points. My goal was to get enough points to win a brand new hobie(which i cant afford to buy) which is far harder to win here then any tournament i've entered. And hopefully with help of team also achieve top 3 spot. I will certainly be in this years far bigger and better Kayak Wars and again out to play. New team to be rounded up right after announcement. All great news  future kayak wars . The glimmer of hope is back!
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: EagleEyesFlash on January 28, 2016, 08:37:52 am
Looks like the craziness might not end.

Okay time to plan for 26 species; 5 new, and about 5 new KW and CKA records.  :)

Anyone know about the new owner Bryan ? Where about 's he is based and
affiliation's ?
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: shooter on January 28, 2016, 09:47:05 am
Sounds like some great goals Brent. No info from Eric about new guys but certainly sounds like a good couple of guys to make the site bigger and better with more events planned.
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: Flyfisher on January 29, 2016, 05:28:11 am
Its funny Rich in a Pm I was just treated like crap from Curtis because of a opinion I expressed on KW, treating me like I don't understand what tournaments are all about etc.... Been doing tournaments for 30+ yrs and run them too.
And your right we all do have different goals. One of the things I've always been proud of is all my fish except one on KW has been caught on artificial lures, but then again "I'm not one of the top anglers"
Guess the bottom line is we are all in this for our own reasons! I have a heart function of 25% and have many medical conditions that go with it, but you know what this year my Kayak war team is Me and my 3 sons ! Can't get better than that, in my humble opinion!
Shooter " great job this year man, I hope you get the credit your dew for all the hrs spent"
Blessings,
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: otownyaker on January 29, 2016, 09:06:14 am
I keep hearing JERRY JERRY being chanted in my head
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: John Gibson on January 29, 2016, 09:12:09 am
I have locked this topic until I've cleaned it up.
Ive been clear in the past, that I DO NOT WANT THIS TYPE OF GARBAGE ON THIS SITE.
When I'm done I will reopen it.
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: John Gibson on January 29, 2016, 09:25:33 am
I've re opened this thread. Ive deleted all of the "Shit on KW comments" as well as any bad remarks about individuals here.
Keep it clean and positive or I will just shut the thread down and we wont have this type of topic on here anymore.
This site isnt about complaining about another site when that individual or group cannot be here to make comments.
Title: Re: A Glimmer of Hope
Post by: Christopher on January 30, 2016, 07:29:14 pm
Cheers John