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CKA's Gear Spot => General Kayak Modifications => Topic started by: Terrannator on October 12, 2014, 11:48:19 am


Title: Opinions on Transducer Method
Post by: Terrannator on October 12, 2014, 11:48:19 am
Hey guys, I'm starting to get into the market for a fish finder on my ride 115 for next season.  From researching, the Lowrance elite 4 dsi chartplotter/fish finder is looking the most attractive so far.  What are the best methods everyone has used for their transducer? Thanks

Terran
Title: Re: Opinions on Transducer Method
Post by: John Gibson on October 12, 2014, 07:36:39 pm
Ive had a lot of success with installing it in the hull of the boat.  the temps may not be 100% accurate but it'll still give you a good reading.  As long as  you install it properly you'll have no issues.
Title: Re: Opinions on Transducer Method
Post by: Terrannator on October 12, 2014, 08:47:32 pm
How well does the scupper mount work? Or does it seem to get in the way?
Title: Re: Opinions on Transducer Method
Post by: John Gibson on October 12, 2014, 09:12:56 pm
Im not familiar with the Wilderness system Scupper mounts, but I have one on the Ocean Kayak Ultra and really dig it.
Title: Re: Opinions on Transducer Method
Post by: Ravyak on October 12, 2014, 10:17:06 pm
I use a HB scupper mount on my Trident and it works great. The only thing with it is that you can only use a standard fish finder(no down imaging).

One thing I found out this summer is that if you mount a transducer at the rear of your kayak you will get interference from the paddling. Whatever you do try and mount the transducer in front of you either through a scupper, in hull or on a bracket over the side.

Message PikeYaker if he doesn't see this, he is the guy that would know the options on a WS Ride better then anyone else.
Title: Re: Opinions on Transducer Method
Post by: Xlobsterman on October 13, 2014, 06:12:23 am
Hey guys, I'm starting to get into the market for a fish finder on my ride 115 for next season.  From researching, the Lowrance elite 4 dsi chartplotter/fish finder is looking the most attractive so far.  What are the best methods everyone has used for their transducer? Thanks

Terran

I recently purchased a used Old Town Predator Kayak from a friend of mine. It had the Lowrance Elite 4 HDI with the Lowrance scupper mount. The previous owner had the tranducer in one of the forward scuppers, and I wanted to move it further back in another scupper, but the threaded rod was not long enough because the hull thickness was more in the scupper I wanted to move it too!

So I tried to contact Lowrance from their website to see if they had any replacement rods available, but never heard back from them. So I tried posting my request on their FB page, and still no response! So I sent a private message to them on FB, and finally got a reply, and was told they do NOT have replacement parts for the scupper mounts, and they told me I would have to spend another $40 to buy another complete scupper mount!

So the moral of the story is this: If you decide to use the Lowrance scupper mount, make sure it is exactly where you want it, before you trim off the excess length of rod for your application! Because if you want, and/or need to move the mount, you may be in the same situation as me, and will have to buy a whole new mount because Lowrance does not carry replacement parts for this product!


(http://store.navico.com/ImageHandler.ashx?u=/UserFiles/Images/Products/scupper_transducer_mount.jpg&w=600&h=600)
Title: Re: Opinions on Transducer Method
Post by: Terrannator on October 13, 2014, 11:01:48 pm

Hey guys, I'm starting to get into the market for a fish finder on my ride 115 for next season.  From researching, the Lowrance elite 4 dsi chartplotter/fish finder is looking the most attractive so far.  What are the best methods everyone has used for their transducer? Thanks

Terran

I recently purchased a used Old Town Predator Kayak from a friend of mine. It had the Lowrance Elite 4 HDI with the Lowrance scupper mount. The previous owner had the tranducer in one of the forward scuppers, and I wanted to move it further back in another scupper, but the threaded rod was not long enough because the hull thickness was more in the scupper I wanted to move it too!

So I tried to contact Lowrance from their website to see if they had any replacement rods available, but never heard back from them. So I tried posting my request on their FB page, and still no response! So I sent a private message to them on FB, and finally got a reply, and was told they do NOT have replacement parts for the scupper mounts, and they told me I would have to spend another $40 to buy another complete scupper mount!

So the moral of the story is this: If you decide to use the Lowrance scupper mount, make sure it is exactly where you want it, before you trim off the excess length of rod for your application! Because if you want, and/or need to move the mount, you may be in the same situation as me, and will have to buy a whole new mount because Lowrance does not carry replacement parts for this product!


(http://store.navico.com/ImageHandler.ashx?u=/UserFiles/Images/Products/scupper_transducer_mount.jpg&w=600&h=600)
Thanks, the Lowrance scupper mount seems like it would work perfectly in one of the scuppers by my feet and would be out of the way. I wouldn't really have any other options so I don't think I'll have to worry about moving it and it being too short. How do you like the elite 4 hdi?
Title: Re: Opinions on Transducer Method
Post by: Xlobsterman on October 14, 2014, 05:41:32 am
Thanks, the Lowrance scupper mount seems like it would work perfectly in one of the scuppers by my feet and would be out of the way. I wouldn't really have any other options so I don't think I'll have to worry about moving it and it being too short. How do you like the elite 4 hdi?

I haven't really used it yet! I got the yak about a month ago, and that damn work thing keeps getting in the way of me using it, or the wind has been blowing a bit too hard on the days I have free to use it.

BTW, I did find a great deal on a Navionics chart card for it for just over $50 all others were $200 or so...........


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lowrance-Navionics-GOLD-microSD-mapping-bundle/191369323952?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D25879%26meid%3D601ce16dbcb84121b70e8235841c0246%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D10819%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D191351593040 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lowrance-Navionics-GOLD-microSD-mapping-bundle/191369323952?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D25879%26meid%3D601ce16dbcb84121b70e8235841c0246%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D10819%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D191351593040)
Title: Re: Opinions on Transducer Method
Post by: Red Rocket on October 14, 2014, 09:44:34 am
I've shot through the hull with transducer installations in 3 different kayaks and they've all worked just fine.
Title: Re: Opinions on Transducer Method
Post by: Mtmouse on October 15, 2014, 04:40:12 pm
I wanted to move it further back in another scupper, but the threaded rod was not long enough because the hull thickness was more in the scupper I wanted to move it too!

Just go to Home Depot or hardware store and get a similar size threaded rod, then cut it to the length you need. You won't find plastic rod, but the threaded steel rod will work just as well.
Title: Re: Opinions on Transducer Method
Post by: Xlobsterman on October 16, 2014, 05:25:53 am
Just go to Home Depot or hardware store and get a similar size threaded rod, then cut it to the length you need. You won't find plastic rod, but the threaded steel rod will work just as well.

I can not use plain steel rods because I use my Yak in saltwater 99% of the time!

So it has to be either plastic or stainless steel.

BTW, and IMO, Lowrance should have available repair parts for this item, but they don't!
Title: Re: Opinions on Transducer Method
Post by: otownyaker on January 15, 2015, 11:48:00 am
I have a sit in yak I silicone it under my seat works perfectly no paddle interference with a 12v wheelchair battery last all year without a charge
Title: Re: Opinions on Transducer Method
Post by: Donald on January 16, 2015, 11:00:36 am
Do you have any Idea how effective the wheel chair battery would be on a Minkota motor?

Don
Title: Re: Opinions on Transducer Method
Post by: rocketball on January 16, 2015, 11:53:29 am
I have been shooting through the hull for the past 6 or 7 years and it does seem to work great. Thinking about trying the lowrance scupper mount option on my new yak or the mount from yakattack that drops over the side of the hull.
Title: Re: Opinions on Transducer Method
Post by: otownyaker on January 17, 2015, 12:20:24 pm
Do you have any Idea how effective the wheel chair battery would be on a Minkota motor?

Don
Depends on the wattage it takes.
My wheelchair batt is 12v @ 7amph
My m8 uses one to run a tiny troll motor and he gets 4 hrs or so.