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Title: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 05, 2011, 02:40:32 pm
brown bull catfish
spinner and worm
french lake paddlers derby
june 12
10.25"
trophy pts 2
species pts 1
fish total  3
running total 3
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Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 05, 2011, 02:47:10 pm
shad
power bait on a fly
french lake @ nb paddlers derby
june 2
11.5"
species pts 1
fish total pts 1

running total 4
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Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 05, 2011, 02:53:34 pm
yellow perch
spinner and worm
french lake@ nb paddlers derby
june 16-17 i`ll update
10.5"
trophy pts 2
species pt 1
fish pts 3
running total 7

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Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 05, 2011, 02:58:49 pm
pumpkin seed sunfish
spinner and worm
french lake @ nb paddlers derby
june 16-17 yaya, i<ll find it...lol!
8.25"
species pts 1
fish pts 1
running total pts 8

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Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: Transplant on July 05, 2011, 03:10:07 pm
Min length is 6" so the bluegill is good. That perch is over trophy size of 10", so add a couple trophy points for that one.
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 05, 2011, 03:10:22 pm
white perch-i plan to replace this with a much bigger one - i found some monsters buut...hmmm, wait a second, i have a picture of one of those i think. i don<t have the card right now
french lake@ nb paddlers derby
june
10"
species pt 1
fish pts 1
running total 9

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Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 05, 2011, 03:14:13 pm
thanks transplant! i`ll update it.
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 05, 2011, 03:23:24 pm
chain pickeral
wonder lure crank
french lake
june14, 2011
23.75"
species pt 1
fish pts 1
running total pts 10

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Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 05, 2011, 03:27:52 pm
ow! i`ll have to check and see if i have a better photo on that pic, i think i have a lot of it, it`s awefully close to 24 in that picture.
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 05, 2011, 03:34:11 pm
it looks like i was wondering the same thing at the time. here is my next shot of it.

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Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 05, 2011, 04:10:28 pm
small mouth bass. i`ll be replacing this one.
wonder lure crank
wheymouth ns @ the ns smallie slam
april 30, 2011
16"
species pt 1
fish pts 1
running total pts 11

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Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 06, 2011, 12:32:45 am
golden shiner  - formerly known as: species -good question!! any suggestions?
wonder lure crank
small brook running into the kennibicasis river in nb
july 5, 2011
6.5"
species pt 1
fish pts 1
running total pts 12
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Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 06, 2011, 12:52:53 am
any ideas what this one is? i don`t think i`ve ever seen one before. i had caught another about the same size but he flipped out of the yak while i was getting the camera out. after another hour of fishing, i caught this one. very golden scales, the tail is actualy split, the back is black and the scales have a bit of a green tinge. the first was at the actual stream mouth, this one was up stream just a bit. i caught a few white perch while i was trying for it, biggest was 12"
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: John Gibson on July 06, 2011, 07:40:56 am
yellow perch
spinner and worm
french lake@ nb paddlers derby
june 16-17 i`ll update
10.5"
trophy pts 2
species pt 1
fish pts 3
running total 7

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you know that perch is eating well lol.
nice progress
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: EagleEyesFlash on July 06, 2011, 08:47:16 am
Good entries!
Your minnow looks like a golden shiner .
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 06, 2011, 07:35:23 pm
ahhh! thank you EagleEyesFlash! i didn't think they came anywhere near that big. i'm sure you are right, i'll put a name on it now.
again, thanks.

ouird, that was a nice fat yellow perch. the hammond classic covers the area i target most for even bigger ones. he looked tastey ...!
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 06, 2011, 08:16:16 pm
EagleEyesFlash had it right - it`s a golden shiner. 8) that explains a lot really. ;D i`m surprised the light bulb going off over my head right now isn`t blinding!!!!  :) :) :)ohhhhhhhh! :) :) :) :)
you see, i`ve been looking at these for about ten years now, but all the ones i`ve seen were allready partialy digested. so that`s what they look like. i thought they were much smaller - fat head minnow size.
really guys  - this is an OMG moment! i know people i can tease with  this for weeks! lol!! :-X
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 08, 2011, 06:34:23 pm
here is an upgrade on my small mouth bass
smalli mouth bass
on wonder lure crank
wheaton lake
may13, 2011
18.75"
trophy pts 2
species pt 1 already taken
fish pts 3
running total pts 13
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Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 09, 2011, 08:15:33 am
striped bass. i`ll be upgrading this one. no measurment in the picks, i didn`t take one that i can find. i swear...
firetiger 6" bomber long a
off of rohan island, north of the falls and power boat club
june 24, 2011
no measurement picture (it was 27 - i`ll get a bigger one!)
species pt 1
fish pts 1
running total pts14
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i tried to upgrade this one tonight. i fished a double header, low tide with beerbaron at and above the island, high tide with jim in the falls. only the island fishing would have counted, as i was in an inflateable motor boat in the falls. so of course i caught 2 in the falls, a 34.5" 12.5lb and a 33" no weight measurement

here`s the 34.5"
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Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: JeffGoudreau on July 09, 2011, 08:38:08 am
Awesome John!! Those are great stripers. You have the first nighttime striper pic on our site :) Keep up the great work out your way.
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: EagleEyesFlash on July 09, 2011, 09:57:21 pm
ipop is a local expert..too bad jeff you guys didn't meet up sooner.
Go ipop ( does your handle have something to do with Sinead O'Connor )?
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 10, 2011, 12:18:41 pm
EagleEyesFlash, i got my tag from my favorite way to fish any bass - i pop! 8) unfortunately, i can only do it for so long, it`s something my arms don`t like, but i love the top water strikes and i`m good at teasing them into a bite. here i pop for stripers mostly to turn them on. i guess that is my first guide tip. the sound of a big popper is the same as a striper hitting top water. they hear it and think others have started feeding, and come over to get some too. this works best at dawn. i had done it 10 minutes before i caught that 37", which i think is tied for my biggest striper from the yak. 2 years ago i lost a 40+lb striper on a popper when the hook broke. the swirl when it hit was bigger than my car!!! :o ;D
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 11, 2011, 12:14:21 am
american eel
on bait
hammond river
july 10, 2011
20.25"
trophy pts 2
species pt 1
fish total 3
running total pts 17

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   8) as i type this striper nuggets are sizzling in the pan, about to be joined with some chile mac - hmmm good. ;) if i keep it, i eat it - my dr. tells me so! lol ;D i cprèd the eel.  i set out this weekend to catch either a sturgeon or an eel. well, i caught the eel! lol. my mother would have loved me fishing for eels, and been ...upset that i let it go. i would have been punished for it as a kid. :'( my fiends used to rat me out....those were the days! lol ::)

it was good for a trophy by a 1/4 inch, and trying to get it to lay out i didn`t know how long it was until i reviewed the pic, then got another couple just in case. i also have a short clip of this eel.


i like this picture of the eel. i took it as i landed it.

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Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: EagleEyesFlash on July 11, 2011, 07:35:26 pm
Not a bad eel .
Ichthyologists figure they spawn in the Sargasso Sea.
Use to get a long one 30-44" during opening day for walleye on the Ottawa river for the last 5 yrs. They are trapped between the dams and must be old and hence protected  now on the Ontario side of the Ottawa river..pretty sure there's some successful spawning in the river.
Common shiners can get over 6" too and are my preference for bait over golden's when you have to use bait ( ie ice fishing ).
I like to pop too..maybe for a Bluefin some day.
Didn't know what fallfish were a while ago..now see 'em all the time.
Your doing a wonderful job contributing to the site IPOP ! ;) ;)
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: JeffGoudreau on July 11, 2011, 07:49:10 pm
I 2nd that Ipop.
And that is a huge EEL! I hope I can catch one of those this weekend. I really want to catch one of those before I leave :)
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 13, 2011, 08:51:49 am
thanks guys! 8)
common shiners get that big too? i thought they were all much smaller. see what happens when you get your fish from a bottle?! lol!
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 29, 2011, 02:45:31 am
fall fish
on a blaze minnow crank, first time trying it
loch alva watershed, n.b.
july 25, 2011
no measurement - i will upgrade this one
species pt 1
running total pts 18

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not the best pic`s. i was trying to show the whole fish so you could better see the fish stroover caught - same thing but this is a smaller one - they grow much bigger in the loch alva system.
these fish`s heads turn either red or black depending on sex during spawning, you can see the color just ending in stroovers shot. notice regular fish lips - no sucker. you can barley see the beginings of bumps on the head, these will get more pronounced with size.

 i just noticed not much of a shot of the boat (scanoe/kayak hybrid thingy i was borrowing), and nothing showing the kayak paddle i carried 5 km`s (theirs i would break on the first power stroke)... i`ll get better shots before summers end.
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: EagleEyesFlash on July 29, 2011, 10:29:09 am
It looks Fallfishy to me Ipop !!
" Scales on back and upper side darkly outlined".
Think fallfish spawn in the fall.."hence the name fallfish ! " ..and grow bumps to push gravel.
I googled red face chub..no matches !!
There's a small 2-4" rosey faced chub in the states.
Chubs I'm familar with in Eastern Canada are Creek and Hornyhead ( there's some rarer ones too ).
Welcome debate !
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 29, 2011, 03:17:18 pm
these ones spawn in late spring and early summer and have no black spot on the dorsal.

i just found that that golden shiner i caught was as big as they get!

we were looking for some one to land and photo a trout-perch at the Hammond classic. a rare species to land, found basically in  ontario in eastern Canada, they are also know as silver chub. i have only caught 2 in my life - they have a hard mouth like a catfish, maybe harder, and look from above like trout if it`s just before sunset. i spent half an hour trying to hook up with one. finnaly i let it have it when i had a bite, swinging for the stars to hammer the hook home...and was quite surprised to see what i had caught. so i caught another to see if the school i was trying for were all this strange fish. they were about 5 " long. there were 2 reports of them during the tourney last year and no photos - camera shy?

Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 29, 2011, 03:29:57 pm
wow! by looking for silver chub i found on fact bites a whole list of chub i had never heard of. the distribution of some of these fish seems to be off, but at least there is some info. i also found that silver chub/trout-perch are on the sara species at risk list too.
they are not listed as being east of lake erie, so i wonder if they were stocked here with the smallies, which were from lake erie. they stocked several sun fish at the same time.
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: phattrick on July 29, 2011, 03:41:47 pm
I did a search for chubs/stripers and got about a million hits then I realized I had made a typo and was searching for chubby strippers...
Sorry, my bad
Cheers Rick
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: EagleEyesFlash on July 29, 2011, 04:00:27 pm
JC's "sucker "isn't a hornyhead chub..no spot on tail.
Silver chub are rare..ont. distributuon lake Erie, Lake St. Clair.
I've seen lots of trout-perch ( Buddies did   commercial minnow trapping and I'ld help often )and they only get to 5" long.
Other chubs generally have a dark lateral line and a change in scale colour above and below.
I'm pretty sure both fish are fallfish..due to size !
I've seen golden shiners up to 8".
Okay ..off to that chubby stripper search.
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 29, 2011, 04:51:03 pm
wow! is this ever eye opening! a gizillion chubs/fallfish/minnows!!!

i have been having a debate with my nephew on this for years.  ;D

they do look to be fall fish of a type, at least. the size as you say makes them most likely, just some local sub spieces perhaps? these are found all along the river systems of nb side of the bay of fundy. they show way more red and black than other fall fish.

i stand corrected. but my nephew still calls them chub...!lol!
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: JeffGoudreau on July 30, 2011, 08:36:49 pm
Fallfish my guess. There is no such fish in New Brunswick Ipop. No redfaced chub. Thats a slang name for a chub in spawn colors. Here is the New Brunswick ID key that will be used for future fish that are being misclassed.
http://www.unb.ca/fredericton/science/biology/Fish_key/Species%20key/Families%20and%20species.htm (http://www.unb.ca/fredericton/science/biology/Fish_key/Species%20key/Families%20and%20species.htm)
Judging by all of the doctors and biologists creditted in this one Id say it is pretty sound. Ipop if you have a fish that is not on the inland list then take pics of all of its fins, get close up of scales and kill it to give to these doctors.
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 31, 2011, 03:54:31 am
first , on the lighter side, i am deeply disappointed that my 6" golden shiner is only average! :'( 8" you say eagleEyesFlash!? and after all that work to catch one big enough to post...then i couldn`t catch one for the tourney - how disappointing! your silver chub and trout-perch are 2 seperate species? i`m assuming that they are only found here due to being used for feed for the smallie as they came here on the train from ontario and the states, same as the reb brested sunnies and shell crackers. i`m not sure if the long eared are native or an import too. our pumpkin seeds are native. i have only ever caught those 2 trout-perch but you here about them every once in a while.
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on July 31, 2011, 05:01:26 am
i have corrected the name to fallfish. i have removed my discussions. apparently debate is frowned on.
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: JeffGoudreau on July 31, 2011, 12:32:50 pm
I dont really want to get into the this to much John. All I can say is that if you catch a fish not on the list you will need to provide us with photo evidence and allow us to help give it an ID. There are many on here that are very good at ID and I myself am a F&W Tech as is another member. We will figure it out so long as you take good photos when this takes place. Particular areas to photograph are the mouth in relation to the eye so we can determine distance the maxillary extends and fin placement and tail open so we can see lobes and the dorsal spikes and anything else you think leads you to believe that it is a different species of fish. If it is a sunfish(pumpkinseed) we have many guys on here that catch them all the time. Take a picture of its spot on its gill cover and good photos of its side. These fish adapt to their surroundings and color varies greatly due to that, sex, spawning, substrate and food. So pics are needed.
As for the source. They are the best you have to deal with and as their title suggests they are pretty darn studied.
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on August 01, 2011, 03:27:26 pm
please do not kill any rare fish to get them on a stupid list.
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: JeffGoudreau on August 01, 2011, 03:50:50 pm
I would love to see pics of these rare fish though. So take lots.
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: EagleEyesFlash on August 08, 2011, 08:23:45 pm
Hey Ipop,
Your golden shiner was big enough to take a hook and is the only one ever shown in CKA.
Enough with minnows!
We liked your strippers.
An entry of a sturgeon or A. salmon would be cool.
Fish -on bro !! ;) ;)
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on September 12, 2011, 11:57:13 pm
artic char
on spinner and worm
walton lake
sept. 12
14"
species pts 1
trophy pts 2
fish total pts  3
running total 21


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Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on September 13, 2011, 12:05:59 am
brook trout
on spinner and worm
walton lake
sept.12
11"
species pts 1
running total 22
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Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on September 13, 2011, 12:23:57 am
 brown trout
on rapala 4" with red hooks
first loch lomond lake
sept. 8
21.25"
species pt 1
trophy pts 2
fish total pts 3
running total 25

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Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on September 13, 2011, 12:37:35 am
atlantic salmon grisle (as requested!)
black bug, sinking tip line
jacket river
aug. 27
23"
species pt 1
trophy pts 2
fish total pts 3
running total 28


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Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: EagleEyesFlash on September 13, 2011, 08:42:58 am
Very nice Ipop !!
Congrats. for first Artic char and Atlantic salmon ( of any size ) entries.
Gorgeous fish !
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: JeffGoudreau on September 13, 2011, 09:33:38 am
Is that Arctic Char a lake Trout?
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on September 14, 2011, 02:06:14 am
nope artic char. i`ve been teasing stroover about them all year.  i never made my lake trout trip this year. it`s a 2 -3 day thing. they are as rare here but more well know than the artic char. check out the lakes write up in the nb backroads book.

thanks for the congrats eagleeayesflash. it`s to bad i didn`t know about the contest earlier, i landed a 35" kelt/black salmon this spring, my biggest from the yak, but no pictures. i lost another about 3` 5 days after the 23". i did well on salmon this year, and not just from the kayak
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: NSYakfisher on September 14, 2011, 07:40:32 am
Great stuff ipop
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: EagleEyesFlash on September 15, 2011, 09:28:18 am
ipop..Total points as of Sept. 15th is 29.
( had 12 then went to 13 after 2 for trophy SMB )
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on September 15, 2011, 09:31:28 am
thank you for the correction eagleeyesflash.
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: EagleEyesFlash on September 15, 2011, 10:00:53 am
thank you for the correction eagleeyesflash.
you"re quite welcomed....( EEF for short if you like )
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on September 16, 2011, 12:48:34 am
sea trout
spinner and worm
milkish creek - flooded
sept. 15
10.5"
species pt 1
total running pts 30
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i think it shows the shean well.

Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on September 16, 2011, 12:59:56 am
brook trout upgrade in lenght only - no points change
spinner and worm
milkish creek... further up.
sept.15
11.5"
no change of points, running total still 30

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i caught 2 of these that looked like spawned out males. a little early.
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: John Gibson on September 16, 2011, 04:47:11 am
When is the end of Trout season in NB?
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on September 16, 2011, 12:08:14 pm
yesterday was the last day for trout season in nb. land lochs (salmon) are still open untill the end of the month so there may be a few incidental catches between now and then, and the hybred brown trout-land lochs are still open too (just found in a couple lakes around loch lomond here. i haven`t heard of any being landed lately but i will give them a try at least once.)

i landed over a dozen trout yesterday, some sea run, some locals and some spawned out locals. the spawned out males were easy to pick out, they had so much red on them. i wouldn`t have kept any of the spawned out ones, the ones i did keep were badly hooked. spawned out trout don`t taste anywhere near as good as others.

it`s to bad i didn`t know about the contest earlier. i landed a lot of big trout this year, but all the picturers are of trout  on the plate, the baking sheet, etc. same for the hybreds.
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: JeffGoudreau on September 16, 2011, 09:06:40 pm
Why are you counting a sea trout as another species all together? Its not a seperate species dude.
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: JeffGoudreau on September 16, 2011, 10:35:51 pm
It was made to my attention that there was a separate listed species on the NB list for sea run trout??? Why. Im not sure. We shouldnt have any species listed as a separate species when they are technically not a separate species. Salvelinus fontinalis is Salvelinus fontinalis whether it lives more in salt or is a resident of a river or brook. But this somehow was int here. We will have to be more careful of the rules for areas with this kinda thing.
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on September 16, 2011, 10:52:48 pm
i entered it seperate because you have it listed that way in the trophy list for green area. i`m not the first to enter them, although stroovers sun burnt one is not there anymore.. dnr lists them seperatly here, probably why you did. they were listed seperatly for the hammond classic too. do you list steel head seperate from rainbows?

land lochs are listed seperate from altlantic salmon also.
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: JeffGoudreau on September 16, 2011, 10:58:12 pm
We should change all of those. I dont think steelies are listed that way. Brookies shouldnt be and land locked shouldnt be either. A person can be wise and catch something larger often that is sea or lake run and up their length. But shouldnt get a separate point. Use the system in place though this year :) either way it was written up that way so no probs.
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on September 16, 2011, 11:07:49 pm
steel head are listed seperate, at least in bc and ontario/quebec. in most places sea run have seperate rules and sizes. we have vertualy no steel head in nb - no sea run rainbow except in salmon river. we have very different rules for atlantic and land loch salmon here, fairly complicated ( a land loch becomes an atlantic if it`s a big grisle...weird eh?!)
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on September 23, 2011, 12:26:31 am
tommy cod
on night crawler, hook and weight
st. john river
sept. 22
9"
species pt 1
running total 31


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Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: John Gibson on September 23, 2011, 04:50:39 am
isnt that a salt water species??
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on September 23, 2011, 12:37:41 pm
tommy cod spend most of their lives in estuaries, running further up river to spawn, spending time in the ocean too, and can even be land loch-ed. we mostly catch them at the beginning of ice season here although there are almost always some around. you get them a lot going for catfish at night here in sturgeon alley. i was thinking of going for them in salt water in the next few nights, since if they are up river in numbers they must be in the harbour area too...according to theory - lol!

these guys were fairly dull colored, some can be very pretty, with purples and reds in complex patterns. the ones we were getting in millidgeville (kennebecasis river just before it joins the st. john river) last year were very colorfull while the ones in five fatham whole (mushquash estuary) are fairly dull colored and patterned, like these guys (one was a bit more colorful than the others and one was as plain as i have ever seen)
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on September 30, 2011, 11:54:19 pm
striped bass upgrade - i hope to still upgrade from this one. ::)
7" magnum bonita patterned bomber shallow running.
st. john river
sept 29
33.5"
species pts none - already taken
trophy pts 2
running total pts 33

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it looks like a seal had ahold of him.
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: EagleEyesFlash on October 02, 2011, 01:24:19 pm
Hey Ipop..just putting a note here..hope you don't mind.
T.S.=17
T.T.P.=16
T.P.=33
( Jeff just before closing "trophy lists" some of the green guys wanted sea run brookies
 as a seperate species said okay and added it to list )
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: John Gibson on October 02, 2011, 01:37:34 pm
and tommy cod.
they should be one or the other imo
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on October 03, 2011, 08:54:09 am
it`s where you catch the fish. i have caught hundreds of tommy cod up rivers, ony a couple hand fulls in the open ocean. in quebec the are the prime ice fishing species, all caught in brachish and fresh water.
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: John Gibson on October 03, 2011, 09:11:44 am
IMO, if you count it in one, you cant count it in both (fresh and salt water), which i believe you did.
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: EagleEyesFlash on October 03, 2011, 09:35:01 am
Ouird...depends where they were caught.
Ipop posted tommy cod caught from 2 different locations.
St John river..freshwater ( brackish )..good for a specie point for AOTY Freshwater IMO.
We may add Tommy Cod to "Trophy List" next year..what's a good trophy length, and do
kayak anglers target them ?
The other from Bay of Fundy..saltwater..should be good for a point in Saltwater !
Keep up the awesome work ipop!
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: John Gibson on October 03, 2011, 09:43:55 am
this then should also go for stripers... i recall seeing a similar issue with them..
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on October 05, 2011, 11:22:01 am
it is that way for stripers and eels and a bunch more besides.

for trophy size i would guess at about 11-12",  here those would be a rare catch, i think 14" is my longest ever by an inch. they average here 4-8".  we should probaly discuss this in...discussions! lol!
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: BobD on October 05, 2011, 06:14:35 pm
heh... I can see more discussion around the rules for salt and fresh water contests for the 2012 event!
Title: Re: ipop/ john cail green
Post by: ipop on October 20, 2011, 12:15:13 am
striped bass upgrade....again! (i have my fingers crossed to upgrade again...)
caught on 7" maqnum bomber shallow water lure in golden tiger
st. john river
0ct. 19
36"

species pts - none, already taken, same for trophy pts
running total unchanged at 33


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